For those of you that follow the F1, you’ll know that we had a bit of controversy at the last race, when it was deemed that Vettel deliberately went a little wide in a bid to stop Hamilton from passing him after a minor trackside excursion. The stewards were following the regulations to the letter.
Depending on who you want to see win, this could be great news, or a woeful display of bias against Vettel, and it’s that immediate feeling of schadenfreude, followed by horror, that I’m feeling right now.
It’s been announced that the Department for Transport (DfT) are to crack down on noise polluting vehicles, through the use of prototype ‘noise cameras’ that have been specifically developed for the task. This is because, according to Transport Secretary Chris Grayling, noise pollution has been linked to a number of “significant health implications” such as stress, high blood pressure and heart attacks.
74dB is your limit
To be clear, the limit for noise regulation isn’t changing, but until this point, enforcing that rule has been more about reactive policing rather than proactive enforcement, and for the main part, it’s been subjective rather than black & white, the new noise cameras will change that.
To me, it seems very much like the loss of traffic police in favour of speed cameras; a minor infringement would more than likely result in a ticking off from a traffic officer, but with a camera, there’s no grey area, no thought as to the driver’s skill, the circumstances or timing – if you’re breaking the set limit, that’s as dangerous at 3AM as it is at 3PM.
And that’s before we even get to the whole ‘Big Brother’ issue, and where that will lead us.
Petrolhead heaven
I can fully appreciate that the majority of the public (and motorists) will rejoice at the thought of putting an end to the overly noisy, angry sounding four-cylindered, body-kitted cars that the ‘youths’ drive, but what of a classic V8 on song, or the melodious exhaust note of a V12 under power? The pop and the crackle on overrun … the sounds that celebrate fossil-fuel engineering at its finest?
The stewards (in this case, the police), will have to enforce the regulations to the letter, there’s no choosing the favoured sides, no ‘just this once’ options, and no free passes. Is this great news, or a woeful display of bias against the motorist?
Whilst I’m all very much for teaching younger motorists that noise doesn’t necessarily equate to speed, I do feel that targeting noisy cars through the use of a machine, set to an arbitrary limit is a mistake, and the next question would be “what comes next?”. How homogenised will motoring become? Will there come a time where we’re all driving around in a government issued ‘Transport (STD) – Car’?
No convictions
The noise cameras will be installed ‘at several’ locations over the following seven months, the DfT are at pains to state that there will be no convictions issued under the trial, but that “they could be used to help enforce the law” in the future (so that’s a given then), which would also mean a national rollout.
The cameras will use a combination of noise measurement, speed & class detection and automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) to determine whether the vehicle is breaking the law; there are minor changes for vehicle age that can have an effect, and of course larger vehicles by their very nature could potentially be noisier, the system needs to be able to identify each vehicle accurately.
Given that the DfT have specifically mentioned rural communities, and that identifying a single vehicle at speed on a naturally noisy motorway would be difficult, it’s assumed that the placement of the cameras would be at reasonably low-volume traffic sites initially, as to how well they would work in high-volume sites remains to be seen.
It’s thought that standard exhaust systems, even on performance cars, should manage just fine, unless of course you’re deliberately revving your engine as you drive past, which does open up another point; speed awareness courses tell us that speeding (full stop) is bad, that to counter the natural progression of a car speeding up on a neutral throttle, we should use a lower gear to hold it back slightly, which would mean that engine revs are higher, leading to more noise for the speed – just how accurate are these cameras?
As an automotive performance engineer, I’m not averse to the sound of cars and motorcycles ‘making progress’, providing that the act of driving fast in itself isn’t a danger, but I do understand why some people don’t like that noise, and I’m happy that measures are being taken to counter that, I just believe that they’re the wrong measures.
What are your thoughts on noise pollution? Should the government take this step? Perhaps you feel that there’s other issues that the government should be spending money on? Let us know.
“The cameras will use a combination of noise measurement, speed & class detection and automatic number plate recognition (ANPR) ”
So the noise measurement is a trojan horse to lumber us with more speed cameras and more ANPR tracking our journeys even if we are legally squeaky clean. Big Brother is watching you.
My car is 30 years old this year and underwent type approval with the same exhaust. Even the intake noise can be up to 103dB(A), the exhaust has been measured much higher.
As it’s a classic car I am assuming that the “class(ic) detection” will put my car out of the jurisdiction of this new money-making scam.
Club rally cars of which i was a co driver. When you went to scrutinising, your rally car was checked, part of the check was a sound check using a dB meter, if you were at 100dB you would have failed. So if that was on a competition rally car. I believe 100 dB is too loud for a road car, it has been too long that cars and motorbikes have been fitted with ridiculously loud exhausts ( I used to be an MOT tester ), and this sounds like a great idea. The only point i see is that unless these are stand alone units, there are not enough police officers to do anything about it. As I’ve seen too many cars with bulbs out and the only time they seem to be fixed is at the MOT when it fails the test. Yes have loud cars and bike for track racing, but unless the car sounded like it when it was manufactured. Leave the exhaust alone. Stop fitting ridiculously loud exhausts !!!!
Grow up have you something to hide
I welcome this news. In Leamington Spa, where I live, there is a white Lamborghini being driven round our streets in the evenings, with the driver red-lining it. Not only is this dangerous, the exhaust noise is totally unacceptable. and anti-social. I have owned a Porsche 993 RS, a Porsche 959, and several Ferraris, including a 612 and 599, so I appreciate the comments you have made, but the only place to enjoy such cars is on track-days. Even racing circuits have noise limits, so what’s wrong with having noise limits in our residential areas?
So for 15 metres anyone can coast by the camera on zero throttle and then floor it…….it aint gonna work, just more money wasted by a govt all out of ideas
spot on!!
Oh, so we can all afford track days and to go to race meetings to enjoy our classic V8 cars.. Pillock.
if you can afford a v8 you can afford a track day you pillock
Not really. A V8 can sit on the drive, not causing any bother, and it only cost you a few pounds in petrol and insurance once or twice a week when you take it out. For people like you who are obviously blinkered£ and I’ll advised, most classic car enthusiast run on a shoe string, often with cars in different states of progression. They are not all, if ever, concourse. Paying x amount of pounds to go into a track for a track day is not something enthusiasts would always be able to stretch to. We don’t all have never ending wallets, and our cars have often been with us for years. We don’t buy the exotic Ferrari’s, and we keep a close eye on spending, plus taking a classic car to a track day is not what it is about. Pillock.
What about motor bikes?
A Harley starting up isn’t exactly quiet!
Then the scooters that plague inner cities sounding like annoying mosquitos usually ridden by poorly skilled pizza delivery people or the gangs of young criminals in London. Another expense that motorists have to fund. How about getting police to focus on crime?
Also let’s face it why should we listen to someone like Chris Grayling?
I agree motorcycle noise is a big noise pollution issue especially living near a major road. I agree it’s both the deliberately noisy big bikes and the strimmer engined brigade both that are the culprits.
I’m sure that singling out motorcycles is completely fair. Anyone in control of any vehicle who deliberately thrashes round our streets or countryside being a nuisance whether it be speed, sound or just lack of respect should be the target of law enforcement. Noise, like it or not, can be a positive and I say that based on seeing someone hit by an electric vehicle.
A motorcycle or a car with an open exhaust driven across London late a night can disturb the sleep of half a million people. (I forget the source.) It’s not just Londoners who suffer. What’s the motive of the selfish idiots who do this? A bit of fun?
At slow speeds ev’s have a electric sound generator (VESS) that can be switched on ( think it should not be able to be switched off) it automatically cuts out at about 15 mph when tyres are making noise.
Newsflash. Motorcycle engines aren’t surrounded by bodywork or sound deadening materials. Of course they are going to sound louder.
It’s the morons who put a racing can on it and rev it like a child.
John, excessive noise is excessive noise irrespective from the vehicle is coming out of, Its measuring the db not the wheels, so even if is a car, bike, tractor or what ever all will apply to all i presume just like the speed camera.
I ride a 1100cc touring bike and hate these idiot bikers who seem to think they ride an “automatic” bike going in first gear at any speed. On a modern sports bike fist gear can go to 60 MpH and the noise is deafening. The bike itself might be completely legal but often has the DB eater in the exhaust removed for extra fun.
Get your facts correct
Suzuki GSXR1000K3 2003 96mph in first to red line.
Exactly. You’re just reinforcing his point. Well done.
Isn’t that over the motorway speed limit let alone an urban road if you ride you bike like that you deserve to be banned. You have probably helped to get this noise limit implemented.
Yes that is true, but at least it is not modified to make unnecessary noise like some Petrol Heads make thier vehicle to make extra noise
I wonder if these cameras will be signed or stealthily hidden. In any case, there are plenty of cheap tyres which are on the noise limit at lower than motorway speeds.
This may become another way to summarily enforce yet another statute by way of financial penalty. I wonder when people will finally have enough of this and instead of complaining, stop consenting.
In the dawn of the EV, this does look like another tactic to steer people away from the internal combustion engine.
Having moved to the countryside a little while ago for the peace and quiet I welcome anything that will reduce the excessive noise made by motorbikes and cars fitted with after market ‘sport exhausts’. Our village is plagued by these anti-social elements tearing through at speed at all hours of the day and night. We can hear some approaching from well over a mile away. Usually the excessive noise is also coupled with excessive speed. Please deploy them in rural Cheshire!!
Rural North York’s needs them too, ridiculous motorbikes and chavs in noisy cars everywhere!
As a % they are s tiny minority, if there were police on the streets enforcing the current noise laws it wouldn’t take long to catch them and crush their cars/bikes …..
Back in the sixties I thought a law was brought in limiting exhaust noise to 72 decibels for cars & bikes & I think about 80 decibels for HGVs & buses,I rang my local police sometime back about local noise levels & was told they knew nothing about any road traffic noise level limits so if the police don`t know how is any limit going to be enforced.
Well said. We have some chav living in the cup-de-sac near us with an aftermarket exhaust and god knows what else modification. At least it won’t last long judging by the way his car backfires whenever he uses it. Selfish git.
*cul-de-sac Bloody autocorrect!
No one has mentioned the cars with a boot full of speakers which thud their way through town centres. I had one follow me up the M1 recently and couldn’t hear anything else but thud – thud – thud
I have various C***py little cars in my town who hold gears for the most NOISE POSSIBLE. Exhausts are worth more than their cars are. And it’s the style of driving which @isses me OFF. Redlining it everywhere.
Absolutely agree, nothing worse than cars or motorbikes ‘gunning’ coming out of garages or on roads You can hear them for miles and so unnecessary especially during the night.
The major offenders here – on a poor quality, pot-holed ‘A’ road – are motorcycles of all sizes, including a wannbe ‘Hell’s Angels’ club, and fast farm tractors, especially with empty trailers which bang and crash along, very fast, and until very late at night in the summer.
I hope the recognition system covers these vehicles.
It is often difficult to see any number-plate on them, obscured ‘accidentally’ with bags or dirt and mud. These offending vehicles outnumber private cars by 10 to 1.
Anti bike again I see, mummy wouldn’t let you have one? Trailers on wagons and farm tractors crash along because of c**p roads nothing to do with driver. If I get a letter for noise I’ll take it to court and show my British kite marked legal exhaust system and ask how it has no become illegal because some sad sack in an office thought it was to noisy? If your slightly deaf an have your car radio turned up in can easy exceed 75db. The wife is deaf and she has it up to hear radio 4 an I got the db meter out, 87db. So all you smart a**e anti truck bike, big car could also be busted for listening to the archers a little bit too loud.
Fast or modified cars and bikes are not the problem here. The problem is people who are fitting deliberately loud exhausts to them and deliberately making a loud noise. There is no need. I have a fast car with a performance exhaust that improves performance without making that kind of noise. These guys are just attention seekers.
Exactly, I have a 306 GTI 6 which is a bit loud but its totally standard, it’s not fast by today’s standards at all but I’d have to break built up area speed limits to make much noise and drive pretty hard outside of towns.
I have 3 cars in total and the only reason I can sensibly afford them is by not racking up points or making claims. Perhaps that also explains why a lot of these people are in pretty sh** cars making lots of noise.
Yes what a great idea, and take the MOT stations to task if they ignore these noisy vehicles, we have these cars around our area.
Actually thats all that is really needed , make the mot stations test for sound emissions.
Job done and it would be cheaper.
But then no one could be find and there would be no extra revenue for the government.
Loud pipes save lives
Unfortunately you have a point..
Loud motorcycle exhausts save bikers lives.
It won’t save the life of my neighbour if he carries on revving his bike at 4.30am. He does this for at least 10-15 minutes every morning on a weekday. Fine if you need an early wake up call but some people work shifts or don’t need to get up for a couple of hours. I think we’re all getting to the point of whoever murders him first will get a medal!
Absolutely true. Anti social behaviour is not acceptable.
Do you really believe that?
How will this affect the motorcycling fraternity? I have several bikes with performance but not MOT breaking silencers.
You’ll be fine. Just use them one at a time.
We have MOT tests that could ensure no car is making a noise above what is normal. This is an unecessary waste of money that is more about big brother watching us.
Fu***ng ridiculous
Just another money making exercise , the government cannot think of enough ways to squeeze the motorist.
The writer limits his understanding of “noise” to “exhaust noise.”
Of far greater concern to many are vehicles fitted with expensive sound systems featuring massively powerful sub-bass amplifiers. It’s not unusual to see the roof and body panels of these cars literally bulging in time with the beat.
Such overwhelming, pulsating ultra-low frequencies can be extremely disturbing and distracting for nearby road users, multiplying the risk of accidents.
Both the US and Russian military have been experimenting with subsonic pulses for anything from battlefield to “psy-ops” and crowd-control use. Observed effects include resonance in body cavities causing disturbances in organs, visual blurring, disorientation and nausea, and – in more extreme cases – vomiting and bowel spasms.
Will the proposed “noise cameras” be equipped to detect these extreme low-end frequencies? Time will tell, but somehow I doubt it.
bikes registered befor 1April1983 are exempt from any noise restriction
i cant wait the thought that finaly somebody might help reduce the high levels of noise down our high road is wonderful. it wont happen im sure. but its not only exhaust noise its music from cars that shake and vibrate my home and raise my blood pressure forcing me use subtitles to even watch the TV . but by god I live in hope. theres less noise in the pit lane at silverstone than the roads of Clacton on Sea.
maybe government and councils responsible for road resurfacing could be enforcrd to make sure that the surface that they put down is noise reducing with limits on their side. some surfacing creates horrendous noise levels. wheres their control.
I have to ask as well what if there are several motorcycles travelling closely together and none of them are individually over the sound limit but collectively are over the limit.
Isnt that what MOT’s are for to weed out illegal exhaust systems on more modem vehicles.
I welcome this as well and as the technology is fairly new I’m sure if it works it will be improved in much the same way as we have average speed cameras now. To catch everyone breaking it will be near impossible, like speed cameras, the thresholds will probably give some room for error, classic cars or sports cars that comply with the law will have to be catered for, what is really needed is to catch anti social driving and poorly modified vehicles.
If this system picks up the deafening noise of the super sound machines masquerading as cars with their deaf drivers then brilliant. Also picking up motorbike exhausts when over the noise is over the top will also pick up the bikes which have had catalytic converters removed (legally). This will identify many vehicles which are illegal in other ways.
74 Db??? this is almost whisper quiet.
My car legally registered last year (V8 engine) was tested and passed at 99Db (at speed) and 93 Db at idle.. This is the level set by the govt and construction & use regs.
So, they are now setting levels at 74Db, I will look forward to my day in court where I will be asking the judge how they are prosecuting me at 25Db’s less than the legal level set by DVSA.
For me, these noise cameras can’t be deployed soon enough. As a Triumph and Ducati owning motorcyclist and a Porsche owning car driver, I deplore those who modify their exhaust systems to generate noise polluting vehicles that shatter the quiet of urban and rural districts. Indeed, I would extend it further to include those vehicles with excessively loud sound systems, bikes as well as cars, which polite our roads.
Why can’t this be picked up at the time of the MOT – too much noise – fail!!!
Most bikers who have aftermarket exhausts will just fit the factory exhausts for the MOT and the change them back again once passed.
Fascist Britain. Say no more.
Only if you are offensive in the first place.
Fascist Britain. Say no more
I believe that this is a great idea, the sound polluters do not care a dam about onyone except them self’s. The sooner this is brought in the better.
It shud be tested for at the MoT…why have yet more expensive unecessary electronic ‘tracking’ and money fleecing equipment on the roadsides. Or are you in favour of every cash grabbing anti motorist idea that comes up ?
What a bunch of moaning whinging gits! I’ve never in my life seen so many people gurning over a bit of noise. This isn’t just noise abatement this is another infringement and erosion of your civil liberties by a failed government devoid of ideas for revenue creation and who will do anything to avoid making their wealthy friends and family and indeed themselves have to pay higher rates of tax on their income and hidden stashes. They are systematically trying to drive the less well off, off of the roads completely. Look at the cities with charges for entering certain areas. Who does that affect? Not the wealthy that’s for sure. And this is just another ploy by the wealthy elite who have a property in a rural area to stop folk passing by and disturbing their day. Give over! It’s just a bit of bloody sound. Do any of you take part in shooting? Loud isn’t it. And as for the poster complaining about tractors and trailers, really? You move to the countryside knowing full well that farming activity takes place year round and you whine about the noise of the machinery. You are a joke! Just one question. Will the cameras only be active from 11pm until 8am? As far as I am aware there is no restriction on generating noise outside of these times.
If you class this as a bit of noise you should take a hearing test and attempt to join the human race.
What about the noise from Race Tracks such as Brands Hatch. Living near one of these the noise is well above the 105db limit that it is supposed to adhere to and you have to put up with it all day.
Look up ‘acoustic reflex’ and how the ear drum fails to function correctly. You may soon realise we are not all the same and some loud sounds shock! This phenomenon is becoming more common and affects tens of thousands of folk. As someone who underwent brain surgery last year, I don’t think someone has the right to make my health suffer or that of anyone else in shared public spaces.. No problem on private places or events though.
It’s generally considered that persistent noise over 85db is damaging. New vacuum cleaners, for instance, must be under 80db (EU ruling). So the government expects vehicles to be under 74db? Unless these cameras are going to be a respectable STANDARD distance fro the carriageway, their low threshold can have only been dreamt up for one thing – cash generation.
The UK is becoming a true totalitarian state. If they keep turning the screw something will break…
This is totally unnecessary and will develop into yet another way of milking the motorist. Boy and not so boyish racers tend to frequent particular areas and the police should be able to deal with them (if there are enough patrol policemen left). The financial implications are bad enough but no doubt it will also involve a points fest for midnight speeding on deserted roads.
I feel something should be done about the noise polution especially when you live by a duel carriageway and the young wannabe rally drivers go drag racing at night to see who can go the fastest through a digital speed monitor with their loud exhaust systems. If they are genuinely sports cars and passing through then fine..
The MoT is THE place where sound levels should be checked, and not by deploying more expensive roadside nefarious tracking equipment under the guise of being funded by the fines/tickets that they will generate.
It wil cost nothing to ‘add’ it into the MoT, whereas the proposed ‘roadside’ option will have to be funded by fines.
Get real everyone…use your brains..the MoT way is THE only way to do this.
When I used to take my TVR 429SEAC (which was a VERY loud car) on track days it was tested by the stewards & they were very specific as to the positioning of the sensor in regard to distance, number of degrees away from the exhaust outlet, height above the ground and distance from buildings in order to get an accurate measurement. As are the DVLA when you take vehicle for the SVA test so I rely don’t see how this can be accurate .
Loud exhausts saves lives.
On which planet.
Is this the same as speed cameras save lives? … i’ve never seen one jump out and give mouth to mouth yet !!!
This One unless you are an Alien
If you lived with the constant howl of souped-up motorbikes on a nearby road, you’d be a little less queasy about this very sensible idea.
We regularly suffer the motorbike menace at all hours of day and night on the field behind our house – council/police not interested
The cameras should be on B roads with housing on either side. Yes I totally agree with these cameras.
Well said, you should try Cleethorpes. Yes the mot test is the best way, however there is a Mercedes being hammered around the streets and it is under a year old. Its a knob with too much money and no sense.
Pre Mot Test, remove performance exhaust, fit factory standard exhaust, pass Mot, remove factory exhaust, refit performance exhaust. Simples.
Absolute tw*ts, anpr will be used and abused to rinse the motorist. Disgrace.
What about HGVs? They make a terrible noise without engine noise and some upmarket cars have unnecessary tyre noise!
I wonder if it will detect the sound of the angle grinder cutting it down in protest of yet another stealth tax on motorist!
To anyone that takes offence to this comment it’s a joke. Get over it.
I totally agree with this idea of noise abatement, not only for excessively loud exhausts but also excessive acceleration as well, hopefully with a lower noise adjustment for evening and night driving Due to noise being more apparent and travelling further when it is quieter.
As a teenager (40+ years ago) I too fitted a “noisy” exhaust to my motorcycle, it got very wearing travelling any distance and after a gently warning from my father I changed it back, which boosted performance and economy.
Hopefully these “Noisy” vehicles will get an initial section 20 notice in the post and a trip to the scrapyard for a second offence
I live on at the top of a minor hill (in Defford) on a very popular motorcycling route and the number of Harley Davidsons or “race can equipped” sports motorcycles on a Wednesday or a Sunday afternoon is quite horrendous, one or two isn’t a problem but when you get a “club” of 30-40 of these motorcyclists it really can get very very wearing, especially when they change down a gear and then rev the bejesus out of the engine to get an extra 5MPH at the top of the hill all of which is totally unnecessary.
Now this might sound like sour grapes from a miserable old git (which I am) but I am also a motorcyclist with a BMW K1100 BMW R1200RT, Honda CRF250,and Harley Davidson MT350e, all are fitted with standard silencers and all are adequately silenced for our on and off road network.
I just hope it gets the larger motor bikes. they’re the biggest problem for me
Wholeheartedly agree if it also stops the ill-considered idiots who regularly sit in traffic queues blaring their radios out at damaging Db that wouldn’t be allowed even in a live concert environment.
so they would pick up noise from cars on the M25 but not from aircraft flying over it, or will pilots have points on their licence and a fine?
There is nothing worse and disturbing when a car passes me in the street and at home and an idiot opens up or revs the car to cause high levels of noise making you shake with the sudden disturbance. I know these youngsters want to impress others and we all went through those phases, but there is a time and place for this. Actually some of the offenders are in thier late to mid twenties who should of grown up by this age.
Also we are all talking about pollution and here we have theses individuals causing unnecessary pollution by reving thier engines plus the fact that these add ons cause a huge amount of excess
of pollutants in the way they are tuned and the exhausts are not efficient and make more pollutants than the standard exhausts and running of thier engines. So we have noise and air pollutants being created by these petrol heads
No NEED
I’m not in favour of the “nanny state” or unnecessary legislation, but if like me you live near a busy road and are constantly woken up by noisy Harley D’s and boy racers with faulty and/or modified exhausts, you too would welcome this news.
Let’s face it, it’s not just exhausts that are the culprits, 1000watt amps & bass bins in the boot vibrating the car to death are worse & dangerous.
I’m sure with today’s technology it wouldn’t take much to have a sensor fitted inline with the ECU to cut out the engine? One on the inside & one fitted externally near the exhaust, make it compulsory & anti tamper proof from the factory, maybe part of the MOT👍
no anpr cameras required. Sorted SILENCE IS GOLDEN
I live in the countryside and without any doubt, the biggest, noisiest and loudest vehicles on our roads is farm machinery.
Come on Department of Transport… Bring these devices out to locations such as ours and lets see what happens … 😉
Yeah come on farmers stop doing your job in the countryside you’re making way too much noise! Get back to ploughing fields using horses and cut your crops with a scythe ! Sure we don’t need the food that you grow. And your animals are a bit too loud also.
Just another bell end towny, same sort that move in next to a 500 year old pub an cry about the noise of the beer garden…
Or they move to the country beside a motor racing circuit and complain about the noise also !
As someone with a broken acoustic reflex on my left eardrum, where every noise above 70dB becomes a distracting nightmare, I whole heartedly applaud the notion that noise should be limited. No problem with noise at noisy events but it should not damage the quality of lives of others when they want peace. When the Harleys (etc.) go past, I have to shield my left ear drum. They must be tens of thousands of folk in a similar situation.
We all have to live together in this world and the selfish need to be made aware of the consequences of their pollution.
surely we don’t need to have this type of sophisticated equipment to tell us that a car is too noisy. Cant the police just identify an exhaust the size of a dustbin, hanging out the ass of a fast and furious type boy racer machine, and deduct that this may be, just may be, a potential noise pollution potential. sorry boy racers, i know there are other noisy vehicles on the road, but in my experience, you are the main noise polluters. not that i personally have a problem with that as i do like the sound of a well tuned powerful motor. its just the ones that make so much noise through what i have already described as an exhaust the size of a dustbin, and can only normally achieve 0-60 eventually, on a good day, wind in its favor. How much time,effort and money spent on such a non important easy to police issue, i dread to think. Here’s a starter to try and eliminate the best part of this issue, layman’s terms. Police see car with dust bin exhaust, (not too difficult) pull it over, (not difficult) do a db test on car when revving, (not difficult) Failed!!! car gets impounded and gets a prohibition notice until rectified. 75% OF PROBLEM SOLVED.